{"id":956,"date":"2007-11-24T03:10:00","date_gmt":"2007-11-24T03:10:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=956"},"modified":"2007-11-24T03:10:00","modified_gmt":"2007-11-24T03:10:00","slug":"varieties-of-thanksgiving-day","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=956","title":{"rendered":"Varieties of Thanksgiving Day"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A Florida teacher wants to <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/crunchycon\/2007\/11\/erin-separation-of-church-and.html\">challenge the usual First Thanksgiving story<\/a> with one about the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usatoday.com\/life\/lifestyle\/2007-11-20-first-thanksgiving_N.htm\">Spanish in St. Augustine<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><em>But [Robyn] Gioia, 53, has written a children&#8217;s book, and just the title is enough to peeve any Pilgrim: America&#8217;s REAL First Thanksgiving.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It was the publisher who put real in capital letters,&#8221; she says, &#8220;but I think it&#8217;s great.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>What does REAL mean? Well, she&#8217;s not talking turkey and cranberry sauce. She&#8217;s talking a Spanish explorer who landed here on Sept. 8, 1565, and celebrated a feast of thanksgiving with Timucua Indians. They dined on bean soup.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Couple of problems with that. While the Pilgrims occupy much more mythic space than their numbers justify (do you ever hear about the parallel <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Thanksgiving#1619_Thanksgiving.2C_Berkeley_Hundred_in_Virginia\">Anglican colonies and their celebrations?,<\/a>), the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Spanish_Florida\">Spanish soldiers and missionaries in Florida occupy none<\/a>,  outside of Florida, where I suppose that they inspire the names of subdivisions. They came, they <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Fort_Caroline\">massacred some French Protestants<\/a>, and eventually they gave up the territory.<\/p>\n<p>We read about Ms. Gioia&#8217;s efforts on the train coming home. On T&#8217;giving morning, M. called me to breakfast. <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Is it a <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Calvinism\">Calvinist<\/a> breakfast or a <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Papist\">Papist<\/a> breakfast?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Oatmeal and burned biscuits &#8212; what do you think?&#8221; she replied.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Only the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Calvinism#Unconditional_election\">Elect<\/a> will be saved,&#8221; I said.<\/p>\n<p>And then we had bean soup at supper. As for the people who think that Thanksgiving should be a &#8220;day of atonement&#8221; or &#8220;day of mourning,&#8221; let them eat cold tofu in the dark. I see too many people trying to make it back to the family home on this one day&#8211;a day that is more about social bonds than about history or religion. 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But [Robyn] Gioia, 53, has written a children&#8217;s book, and just the title is enough to peeve any Pilgrim: America&#8217;s REAL First Thanksgiving. &#8220;It was the publisher who put real in capital letters,&#8221; she says, &#8220;but [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[10],"class_list":["post-956","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","tag-american-religion"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p6xQTg-fq","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1258,"url":"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=1258","url_meta":{"origin":956,"position":0},"title":"It&#8217;s Thanksgiving-Put Your Mask On","author":"Chas S. 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