{"id":7500,"date":"2015-09-08T19:17:41","date_gmt":"2015-09-09T01:17:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=7500"},"modified":"2015-09-09T08:57:11","modified_gmt":"2015-09-09T14:57:11","slug":"someday-pagans-will-have-harlems-problem-too","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=7500","title":{"rendered":"Someday, Pagans Will Have Harlem&#8217;s Problem Too"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I have been hearing of this for a while \u2014 &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/travel\/destinations\/northamerica\/usa\/newyork\/11825319\/New-York-Harlems-gospel-churches-getting-sick-of-tourists.html\">spiritual tourism&#8221; in Harlem.<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Although gospel music is part of the heritage and spirit of the neighbourhood, some have suggested that scenes in local churches are starting to resemble a Hollywood movie. Tourists visiting have become an issue of contention, to the extent that some are now shut out of services.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Shrinking from gentrification on one side, some of Harlem&#8217;s well-known historically black churches, famous for their gospel choirs, are overwhelmed on the other side by tourists (many of them European, I am told).<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Others report that their church stopped letting tourists come to services because of the disrespect and rudeness they exhibited. For example, in some cases, as soon as the &#8220;praise and worship&#8221; or music ended, they got up and left.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The scale is much, much, much smaller, but I think back to the Wiccan wedding that M. and I conducted here in Colorado in the 1980s for an American guy and his Thai bride \u2014 they met while students at <a href=\"https:\/\/coloradocollege.edu\/\">Colorado College<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Her relatives orbited the circle like electrons, camcorders whirring. It really put me off. I was not used to multiple electronic devices during ritual \u2014 not &#8220;in circle,&#8221; but &#8220;right outside of circle.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The bride&#8217;s father was some kind of United Nations functionary \u2014 he lived in Italy \u2014 and after the wedding he did take us all to a Thai restaurant in Denver, where he ordered without reference to the printed menu, and we had a delicious feast, while his daughter made sarcastic remarks about the king of Thailand, whose portrait hung on the wall.<\/p>\n<p>That made up for the uncomfortable ritual just a little.<\/p>\n<p><strong>But imagine if Pagan ritual theatre begins to attrach attention outside our community.<\/strong> We will have to adapt. Some already have \u2014 <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=6332\">watch this video of a recent Greek Pagan procession through shopping and entertainment districts of Athens<\/a>. As opposed to lining up in rows in pews, I think that the procession is a quintessential Pagan large-group ritual. And maybe some day the tour buses will be there too.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have been hearing of this for a while \u2014 &#8220;spiritual tourism&#8221; in Harlem. Although gospel music is part of the heritage and spirit of the neighbourhood, some have suggested that scenes in local churches are starting to resemble a Hollywood movie. 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