{"id":6922,"date":"2014-12-15T20:32:15","date_gmt":"2014-12-16T03:32:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=6922"},"modified":"2014-12-15T20:38:19","modified_gmt":"2014-12-16T03:38:19","slug":"the-anthropologist-and-the-ancestors","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=6922","title":{"rendered":"The Anthropologist and the Ancestors"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_6924\" style=\"width: 215px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-6924\" class=\"wp-image-6924 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.chasclifton.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/otto.png?resize=205%2C196&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"otto\" width=\"205\" height=\"196\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.chasclifton.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/otto.png?w=205&amp;ssl=1 205w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.chasclifton.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/otto.png?resize=150%2C143&amp;ssl=1 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 205px) 100vw, 205px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-6924\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dutch anthropologist Ton Otto<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Thanks to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.csun.edu\/social-behavioral-sciences\/anthropology\/sabina-magliocco\">Sabina Magliocco<\/a>, I read this <a href=\"http:\/\/sciencenordic.com\/anthropologist-how-i-met-spirits\">interesting piece about a Dutch anthropologist experiencing an ancestor ritual, one involving both the ancestors of the people in New Guinea whom he is visiting and his own.<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>And even though science failed to explain everything, the way I viewed the world was based on the idea that everything \u2013 with time \u2013 could be explained with logic and observations of reality.<\/p>\n<p>Most likely, spiritual manifestations were simply projections of the unconscious, the deceitful trickery of sensory impressions or misunderstandings of natural phenomena.<\/p>\n<p>I had no problem leading a life without spirits, but even so, deep down I always had a nagging feeling that I\u2019d cut myself off from a lot of experiences.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The photo with <a href=\"http:\/\/sciencenordic.com\/anthropologist-how-i-met-spirits\">the article <\/a>is too perfect. I have cropped it here.<\/p>\n<p>In turn it reminded me of an collection published twenty years ago: <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books\/about\/Being_Changed.html?id=q-DxxiBy9W0C\"><em>Being Changed: The Anthropology of Extraordinary Experienc<\/em><\/a>e. (The late <a href=\"http:\/\/wildhunt.org\/2014\/03\/judy-harrow-1945-2014.html\">Judy Harrow<\/a> told me about that one.)<\/p>\n<p>A reviewer wrote,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Anthropologists of recent generations have always expressed enormous sympathy with &#8216;non-rational&#8217; modes of thought, with the &#8216;supernatural&#8217; experiences of people around the world. What they have rarely in their scholarly writing admitted to doing is giving any credence to the &#8216;irrational&#8217; themselves\u2014though such beliefs have long been common among those who have lived and worked for extended periods in cultures different from those that dominate Western society.<\/p>\n<p>Now, in a ground-breaking volume, leading anthropologists describe such experiences and analyze what can occur &#8220;when one opens one&#8217;s self to aspects of experience that previously have been ignored or repressed.&#8221; The ten contributions to the book include Edith Turner on &#8220;A Visible Spirit Form in Zambia,&#8221; Rab Wilkie on &#8220;Ways of Approaching the Shaman&#8217;s World,&#8221; and Marie Francoise Guedon on &#8220;Dene Ways and the Ethnographer&#8217;s Culture.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Note that it came from a small publisher, not a university press! But these experiences do happen, and it is good to get them into print.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, if you are interesting in &#8220;going native&#8221; in the physiological sense, I wholeheartedly recommend Carl Hoffman&#8217;s <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Savage-Harvest-Cannibals-Colonialism-Rockefellers\/dp\/0062325310\">Savage Harvest: A Tale of Cannibals, Colonialism, and Michael Rockefeller&#8217;s Tragic Quest for Primitive Art<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s the best combination of archival research, history, and walking the ground where it happened, talking to people who were there.<\/p>\n<p>And this is getting away from anthropologists . . . but spirits and possibly angry tribal peoples have been evoked to explain the &#8220;Dyatlov Pass Incident.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Writer Donnie Eichar followed much the same methodology as did Hoffman for his own 2013 book, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Dead-Mountain-Untold-Dyatlov-Incident\/dp\/1452112746\"><em>Dead Mountain: The Untold True Story of the Dyatlov Pass Incident<\/em><\/a>. Some people treated those deaths as &#8220;high weirdness,&#8221; but his explanation is more naturalistic \u2014 and fairly convincing.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thanks to Sabina Magliocco, I read this interesting piece about a Dutch anthropologist experiencing an ancestor ritual, one involving both the ancestors of the people in New Guinea whom he is visiting and his own. And even though science failed to explain everything, the way I viewed the world was based on the idea that [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[30,22],"class_list":["post-6922","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-anthropology","tag-weirdness"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p6xQTg-1NE","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":6430,"url":"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=6430","url_meta":{"origin":6922,"position":0},"title":"Anthropologist Describes Rebirth of Mongolian Shamanism","author":"Chas S. 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