{"id":5467,"date":"2013-04-21T20:25:10","date_gmt":"2013-04-22T02:25:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=5467"},"modified":"2013-04-21T20:25:10","modified_gmt":"2013-04-22T02:25:10","slug":"ancient-roman-music-conjectured-imagined","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=5467","title":{"rendered":"Ancient Roman Music (Conjectured, Imagined)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/AKhomMCXCGs\" height=\"315\" width=\"560\" allowfullscreen=\"\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe><br \/>\nThe trouble with most of the &#8220;early music&#8221; groups that I have heard is that they take stuff originally played by drunken peasants (setting aside Christian church music) and make it sound like it is played by anorexic graduate students.<\/p>\n<p>In this case, however, no one knows what ancient Roman music sounded like. They have the instruments and knowledge of ancient modes \u2014 and the rest is just conjectural.<\/p>\n<p>But I still think they all need to slam back some of the good <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Falernian_wine\">Falernian wine <\/a>and then play.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The trouble with most of the &#8220;early music&#8221; groups that I have heard is that they take stuff originally played by drunken peasants (setting aside Christian church music) and make it sound like it is played by anorexic graduate students. In this case, however, no one knows what ancient Roman music sounded like. They have [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[34,56],"class_list":["post-5467","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-music","tag-rome"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p6xQTg-1qb","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":8327,"url":"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=8327","url_meta":{"origin":5467,"position":0},"title":"Ancient Music: &#8220;Time Demands an End&#8221;","author":"Chas S. 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