{"id":3707,"date":"2012-01-08T21:27:11","date_gmt":"2012-01-09T04:27:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=3707"},"modified":"2012-01-08T21:29:16","modified_gmt":"2012-01-09T04:29:16","slug":"wicca-without-woo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=3707","title":{"rendered":"Wicca without &#8220;Woo&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I linked earlier to one of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wpunj.edu\/cohss\/departments\/philosophy\/faculty\/steinhart\/steinhart.dot\">Eric Steinhart&#8217;s<\/a> series of <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=3644\">discussions and critiques of Wicca from a non-theistic philosophical perspective<\/a>. Here is the last, apparently, on Wicca without the &#8220;woo&#8221;:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"http:\/\/freethoughtblogs.com\/camelswithhammers\/2012\/01\/08\/on-atheistic-religion-2\/\">It\u2019s probably not possible for Wicca to renounce the culture of woo.\u00a0 But an atheistic nature-religion in the United States is possible.<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Despite Steinhart&#8217;s perspective, however,<a href=\"http:\/\/freethoughtblogs.com\/pharyngula\/2012\/01\/05\/real-spiritual-exercises-for-atheists\/comment-page-1\/#comment-237343\"> his blogging annoyed some of the heavyweights at Freethoughtblogs.com,<\/a> of which <em>Camels with Hammers <\/em>is part.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Having read a few of Eric\u2019s contributions, I am disgusted. Prolix bafflegab, confusion, thinly veiled attempts to rationalize pagan mysticism, and just general longwinded bullshit. Why have you invited him here? He\u2019s <em>awful<\/em>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><em>Woo indeed.<\/em> Apparently Wicca comes under the heading of <em>Things That May Not Be Discussed<\/em> if you are a committed atheist. (Condemnation from the security of one&#8217;s armchair would be all right, I suppose.) If you take it seriously enough to discuss the possibility of an &#8220;atheistic nature religion,&#8221; you have become ideologically unclean.<\/p>\n<p>Ironic, eh?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I linked earlier to one of Eric Steinhart&#8217;s series of discussions and critiques of Wicca from a non-theistic philosophical perspective. Here is the last, apparently, on Wicca without the &#8220;woo&#8221;: It\u2019s probably not possible for Wicca to renounce the culture of woo.\u00a0 But an atheistic nature-religion in the United States is possible. Despite Steinhart&#8217;s perspective, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[10,90,6],"class_list":["post-3707","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-american-religion","tag-philosophy","tag-wicca"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p6xQTg-XN","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":3644,"url":"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=3644","url_meta":{"origin":3707,"position":0},"title":"An Atheistic Critique of Wicca","author":"Chas S. Clifton","date":"December 30, 2011","format":false,"excerpt":"Blogging atheist Eric Steinhart, writing at Daniel Fincke's Camels with Hammers, turns his rhetorical guns on Wicca. He thinks that a \"woo-free Wicca\" might be tolerable. There are a number of separate posts, and I have not read them all. But I get the impression that he is engaging with\u2026","rel":"","context":"In \"American religion\"","block_context":{"text":"American religion","link":"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?tag=american-religion"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":5113,"url":"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=5113","url_meta":{"origin":3707,"position":1},"title":"Wicca, Recategorized by Librarians, Now by Booksellers as Well","author":"Chas S. Clifton","date":"January 19, 2013","format":false,"excerpt":"In 2007, the\u00a0 news was that books on Wicca were re-categorized by the Library of Congress from BF (psychology, abnormal) to\u00a0 BP 600, a sort of catch-all for \"other beliefs and movements.\" A new Dewey Decimal number was assigned as well, for libraries using that system. Now the change is\u2026","rel":"","context":"In \"libraries\"","block_context":{"text":"libraries","link":"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?tag=libraries"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":873,"url":"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=873","url_meta":{"origin":3707,"position":2},"title":"Wicca and Christianity","author":"Chas S. Clifton","date":"May 10, 2007","format":false,"excerpt":"I have not yet seen it, but English scholar Jo Pearson has a new book, Wicca and the Christian Heritage. Amazon-UK link here.From the publisher's catalog:What is Wicca? Is it witchcraft, Paganism, occultism, esotericism, magic, spirituality, mysticism, nature religion, secrecy, gnosis, the exotic or 'other'? Wicca has been defined by\u2026","rel":"","context":"In \"Christianity\"","block_context":{"text":"Christianity","link":"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?tag=christianity"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":3910,"url":"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=3910","url_meta":{"origin":3707,"position":3},"title":"&#8220;Wicca Man&#8221; Trailer","author":"Chas S. Clifton","date":"March 6, 2012","format":false,"excerpt":"Here is the trailer for the new British documentary on Gerald Gardner, theatrically introduced by Ronald Hutton rather like an episode of the archaeology program Secrets of the Dead. Britain's Wicca Man - (C) Matchlight from Matchlight on Vimeo. I am happy to hear Professor Hutton say that Wicca was\u2026","rel":"","context":"In \"England\"","block_context":{"text":"England","link":"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?tag=england"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":13198,"url":"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=13198","url_meta":{"origin":3707,"position":4},"title":"The First Wiccan Book Published in India","author":"Chas S. 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