{"id":3698,"date":"2012-01-08T16:48:02","date_gmt":"2012-01-08T23:48:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=3698"},"modified":"2012-01-08T16:52:44","modified_gmt":"2012-01-08T23:52:44","slug":"learning-about-pagans-for-the-purpose-of-converting-them","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=3698","title":{"rendered":"Learning about Pagans for the Purpose of Converting Them"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Last month, I <a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianpost.com\/news\/beyond-the-christmas-lights-peeling-back-the-pagan-traditions-part-1-65341\/\">answered some questions<\/a> from a reporter for a Christian news site.<\/p>\n<p>He had such response that now he is on the Pagan beat. So I give you &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianpost.com\/news\/a-peek-at-modern-paganism-what-paganism-is-and-isnt-part-1-65941\/\">A Peek at Modern Paganism, Part One<\/a>&#8221; and &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianpost.com\/news\/a-peek-at-modern-paganism-how-to-preach-to-pagans-part-2-66030\/\">Part Two<\/a>.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Soon \u2014 wait for it \u2014 you meet that reliable figure, the ex-Pagan who found Jesus.<\/p>\n<p>(Sorry, but there is a long history of fraud about tha<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/John_Todd_%28occultist%29\">t. One example here: John Todd<\/a>. I mentioned Todd to the reporter, Mark Hensch, but Christian reporters rarely seem to investigate the claims of ex-Pagans on the lecture trail. Todd was brought down by Christian journalists, it&#8217;s true, but he is just one example of the type.)<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Understanding such multiplicity, says former Santeria-high-priest-turned-evangelical-Christian-author John Ramirez, is vital to befriending and ministering to pagans. Christians need grace, compassion and mercy, he said, to connect with their pagan peers.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Interestingly, the next expert quoted is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tyndale.ca\/summer\/faculty\/james-beverley\">James Beverley<\/a>, a Canadian whom I know slightly from academic study of new religious movements, in which he is active. But here he has his theologian hat on:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Witchcraft ultimately fails in the mythic and legendary nature of its gods and goddesses,&#8221; Beverley writes in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Nelsons-Illustrated-Guide-Religions-Comprehensive\/dp\/0785244913\"><em>Nelson&#8217;s Illustrated Guide to Religions&#8217;<\/em><\/a> chapter on Wicca. &#8220;The Roman, Celtic, Nordic and Greek deities dwell only in the followers&#8217; imaginations. The lack of historical trustworthiness concerning Artemis or Zeus or Diana or Isis is in direct contrast the historical nature of the Gospel accounts of Jesus Christ.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Bottom line: be strong in your faith, learn to appreciate nature, and you can get close to the Pagans.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last month, I answered some questions from a reporter for a Christian news site. He had such response that now he is on the Pagan beat. So I give you &#8220;A Peek at Modern Paganism, Part One&#8221; and &#8220;Part Two.&#8221; Soon \u2014 wait for it \u2014 you meet that reliable figure, the ex-Pagan who found [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[10,24,5],"class_list":["post-3698","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-american-religion","tag-christianity","tag-paganism"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p6xQTg-XE","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":12836,"url":"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=12836","url_meta":{"origin":3698,"position":0},"title":"CFP: Pagan Studies Conference at Masaryk University","author":"Chas S. 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The article begins, The church is training ministers to create \u201ca pagan church where Christianity [is] very much in the centre\u201d to attract spiritual believers. Ministers\u2026","rel":"","context":"In \"Christianity\"","block_context":{"text":"Christianity","link":"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?tag=christianity"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":10111,"url":"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=10111","url_meta":{"origin":3698,"position":2},"title":"Which &#8220;Paganism&#8221; Did the New York Times Mean?","author":"Chas S. Clifton","date":"December 16, 2018","format":false,"excerpt":"When New York Times (mostly) political columnist Ross Douthat wrote a December 12 column titled \"The Return of Paganism: Maybe There Actually is a Genuinely Post-Christian Future for America,\" some Pagans got a little too excited \u2014 look, the NYT is writing about us! 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