{"id":3682,"date":"2012-01-01T14:26:56","date_gmt":"2012-01-01T21:26:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=3682"},"modified":"2012-01-01T14:28:07","modified_gmt":"2012-01-01T21:28:07","slug":"what-do-pagans-get-from-interfaith-activities","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=3682","title":{"rendered":"What Do Pagans Get from Interfaith Activities?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>What does &#8220;ecumenism&#8221; mean when you don&#8217;t &#8220;all worship the same god&#8221;?<\/p>\n<p>Elizabeth Scalia, a\/k\/a<em> The Anchoress<\/em>, a Roman Catholic blogger at Patheos, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/theanchoress\/2011\/12\/29\/so-this-catholic-woman-and-this-pagan-woman\/\">comments simultaneously on posts by another Patheos Catholic blogger and by Star Foster, who manages the site&#8217;s Pagan portal.<\/a> Both of the latter, in Star&#8217;s words, hold that &#8220;My faith is not a matter of style. It\u2019s not like shoes or purses. It\u2019s not a matter of deciding if I want tacos or pasta for dinner. It\u2019s not something I can change on a whim.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Scalia&#8217;s verdict: &#8220;<strong>Ecumenism has not been able to say that [not all religions are the same];<\/strong> it\u2019s been too busy trying to be all things to all people and placing equal values to things that are not equal in anyone\u2019s mind. It\u2019s been a lie.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/theanchoress\/2011\/12\/29\/so-this-catholic-woman-and-this-pagan-woman\/\">She ends up admiring Star for her honesty, at least<\/a>. But her commenters, many of them, are not convinced.\u00a0 &#8220;I couldn\u2019t call myself a Catholic and not tell you that the practice of Witchcraft is evil,&#8221; notes one.<\/p>\n<p>Which is why I sometimes wonder why we \u2014 Pagans in particular \u2014 bother with ecumenical and interfaith activities.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s true that I do often feel that religious <em>professionals<\/em> have more in common with each other and are more able to relate to one another than their congregants and followers are.<\/p>\n<p>We Pagans do not seek unity with the same fervor that the Christians do (even as they splinter more and more). <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ecumenicism\">&#8220;Ecumenicism&#8221; refers to a promotion of unity, of purpose if not of organization, between different Christian bodies.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Interfaith\">&#8220;Interfaith&#8221; has a somewhat different meaning.<\/a>\u00a0 At times the two words are used interchangeably, but they should not be. Were it not for the American constitutional tradition of religious freedom (and similar traditions in some other Western nations), I do not think that the Pagans would get a seat at the interfaith luncheon table. (Resolutions passed by the United Nations have no effect that I have ever seen.)<\/p>\n<p><strong>So my title is an editorial rather than a rhetorical question.<\/strong>\u00a0 I have just been going over some material related to the<a href=\"http:\/\/www.aarweb.org\/Meetings\/Annual_Meeting\/Program_Units\/PUinformation.asp?PUNum=AARPU139\"> Contemporary Pagan Studies Group<\/a> in the American Academy of Religion \u2014\u00a0 the 2012 call for papers has not yet been posted but soon will be. I don&#8217;t know if that topic would fit the &#8220;call&#8221; perfectly, but a creative person could make it fit. Or write an article for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.equinoxjournals.com\/index.php\/POM\/about\/submissions\"><em>The Pomegranate<\/em>. <\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What does &#8220;ecumenism&#8221; mean when you don&#8217;t &#8220;all worship the same god&#8221;? Elizabeth Scalia, a\/k\/a The Anchoress, a Roman Catholic blogger at Patheos, comments simultaneously on posts by another Patheos Catholic blogger and by Star Foster, who manages the site&#8217;s Pagan portal. Both of the latter, in Star&#8217;s words, hold that &#8220;My faith is not [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[10,5,4],"class_list":["post-3682","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-american-religion","tag-paganism","tag-scholarship"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p6xQTg-Xo","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1189,"url":"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=1189","url_meta":{"origin":3682,"position":0},"title":"Pagan Content on Patheos: John Muir was Pagan??","author":"Chas S. 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I know two people who were writing for The Huffington Post\u2014the site that owner Arianna\u2026","rel":"","context":"In \"blogging\"","block_context":{"text":"blogging","link":"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?tag=blogging"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":1281,"url":"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=1281","url_meta":{"origin":3682,"position":4},"title":"Some Newish Online Pagan-Related Magazines","author":"Chas S. Clifton","date":"January 8, 2010","format":false,"excerpt":"\u2022 The new Pagan Edge offers \"lifestyles and passions of the modern Pagan.\" The special subscription price is good until January 10th.\u2022 Penton has been published in South Africa for a while. 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