{"id":13970,"date":"2025-03-27T21:42:28","date_gmt":"2025-03-28T03:42:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=13970"},"modified":"2025-03-27T21:44:25","modified_gmt":"2025-03-28T03:44:25","slug":"the-power-and-sorrow-of-gododdin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=13970","title":{"rendered":"The Power and Sorrow of Gododdin"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-full is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"625\" height=\"833\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.chasclifton.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/gododdin-mouse.jpg?resize=625%2C833&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-13971\" style=\"width:329px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.chasclifton.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/gododdin-mouse.jpg?w=720&amp;ssl=1 720w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.chasclifton.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/gododdin-mouse.jpg?resize=225%2C300&amp;ssl=1 225w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.chasclifton.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/gododdin-mouse.jpg?resize=113%2C150&amp;ssl=1 113w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.chasclifton.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/gododdin-mouse.jpg?resize=624%2C832&amp;ssl=1 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 625px) 100vw, 625px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>Two things arrived together in a package from Amazon: a new Bluetooth mouse, currently in use, and leading Welsh poet Gillian Clarke&#8217;s new version of <em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Y_Gododdin\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Y_Gododdin\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Y Gododd<\/a>in,<\/em> titled <em>The Gododdin: Lament for the Fallen. <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I first encountered the poem in my early twenties &#8212; was it while shelving books in the college library, being puzzled by the Welsh title, and taking it off the shelf? Or a little later? <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I had read some of the classics of heroic literature: the Iliad of course, <em>B<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Beowulf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">eowulf <\/a><\/em>in my Old English class, &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Togail_Bruidne_D%C3%A1_Derga\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">The Destruction of Da Derga&#8217;s Hostel<\/a>&#8221; and other Irish tales, the Arthurian stories &#8212; this was different.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There was no narrative. Something had happened, something heroic but disastrous. A force of three hundred or so post-Roman British cavalry (armor, flowing cloaks, no stirrups, Christian), probably accompanied by foot soldiers \u2014 maybe PIctish allies &#8212; attacked a larger Saxon\/English force (Heathen) at a river ford in what is now northern Yorkshire. Almost all them died in three (four?) days of fighting, even while cutting deep into the larger force. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This happened <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=BS9Duxn-9bc\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">in the late sixth century<\/a>, when what is now Britain <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/7dXnKJLhERI?si=4Z3v-H8zUeE1POOw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">was a patchwork of kingdoms. <\/a>&#8220;Gododdin&#8221; is the name of a tribe, with the &#8220;dd&#8221; pronounced as &#8220;th.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The work is attributed to the famous Celtic British poet Aneirin, written with a &#8220;strict pattern of alliteration, syllabic stress and rhyme . . . an aide-memoir for listeners to hold the poem, recite and pass it on&#8221; (viii). It&#8217;s impossible to replicate that in English, hence the challenge for translators. Think of it as a garland of flowers, each one named for an individual warrior, a pair, or a trio.<sup data-fn=\"f980abe4-5062-41ab-8751-ca1f1ee4621f\" class=\"fn\"><a href=\"#f980abe4-5062-41ab-8751-ca1f1ee4621f\" id=\"f980abe4-5062-41ab-8751-ca1f1ee4621f-link\">1<\/a><\/sup> Here is one:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><em>Cadfannan<\/em><br \/><br \/>Before the cattle rose in the east, he raced to war,<br \/>his soldiers drilled, shield-shatterer.<br \/>Weapons rang before the bellowing herd, <br \/>belligerent Beli, border guard,<br \/><br \/>gold-torqued ox, mounted, grizzled warrior,<br \/>bone-headed boar at the dangerous border;<br \/>&#8216;Lord save us who calls us to heaven,&#8217;<br \/>he roared, raising his javelin,<br \/><br \/>Cadfannan, praised soldier,<br \/>no doubting he trod armies under.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n<p><!-- \/wp:post-content --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p>Or of one of the survivors, Cibno, the poet says<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:quote --><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\">\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p>Cibno, wordless when war was done,<br \/>took communion on his return.<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><!-- \/wp:quote --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p>More than shields were shattered. Yet why do we care?<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p>In 2007, I wrote a post titled &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=883\">Mars and Venus Are in Love<\/a>.&#8221; It was partly a response to a then-new book, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/4ccaoP5\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">A Terrible Love of War<\/a><\/em>, by <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/James_Hillman\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">James Hillman <\/a>(1926\u20132011), a psychologist in the lineage of Carl Jung, famous for titling another of his books <em><a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3QOAait\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">We&#8217;ve Had a Hundred Years of Psychotherapy&#8211;And the World&#8217;s Getting Worse<\/a><\/em>. Hillman&#8217;s &#8220;archtypal psychology&#8221; is far-reaching, and<a href=\"https:\/\/www.psychologytoday.com\/us\/blog\/freudian-sip\/201102\/james-hillman-follow-your-uncertainty\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"> it spurns a lot of pop psychology clich\u00e9s, like the whole idea of &#8220;growth<\/a>&#8220;:<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:quote --><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\">\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p>Hillman, with his profound intellect, disarming charm and a suffer-no-fools-gladly attitude has shaken up all that they were sure about (note-taking, diagnosing, medicating, dream work, the importance of cure) and takes on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.psychologytoday.com\/us\/basics\/politics\">politics<\/a>, architecture, soul-making and other topics that therapists thought were outside of their purview.<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><!-- \/wp:quote --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p>For all his often cap-A Archaic attitudes, however, Hillman was a man of Modernity, of the World War II generation, and like many he no doubt asked, &#8220;Why do we still have wars?&#8221; His book on war tries to answer the question, yet I felt in reading it that he was frustrated that there was no easy answer. In the end &#8212; back to polytheism &#8212; it more or less comes down to &#8220;We have war because Aphrodite desires Ares.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p>As another of his readers a<a href=\"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=883\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">sked<\/a>, &#8220;<em>What if Aphrodite were akin to Pan? What if she valued, not war, but Ares himself, a man-god, a relationship, a lover, yes, a lover, not a warrior?<\/em>&#8220;<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p>I have enormous respect for Hillman, although his path is arduous. Like some Witches, he suggests that a &#8220;soul&#8221; is not something you are born with, but something that you build through your life and works.<\/p>\n<p>But sometimes I wonder if the answer to the war question is even more chthonic than &#8220;Venus Loves Mars.&#8221; Maybe it is simply that Earth needs blood. Humans need blood poetry, &#8220;a rousing rhyme for a bright-clad band.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:footnotes \/--><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:footnotes \/--><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Two things arrived together in a package from Amazon: a new Bluetooth mouse, currently in use, and leading Welsh poet Gillian Clarke&#8217;s new version of Y Gododdin, titled The Gododdin: Lament for the Fallen. I first encountered the poem in my early twenties &#8212; was it while shelving books in the college library, being puzzled [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"[{\"content\":\"One stanza contains possibly the first written reference to King Arthur, who probably lived earlier in that century: \\\"He fed ravens on the fortress wall \/ though he was no Arthur.\\\" In other words, a great warrior but not the greatest.\",\"id\":\"f980abe4-5062-41ab-8751-ca1f1ee4621f\"}]"},"categories":[1],"tags":[414,38,232,40,101,105],"class_list":["post-13970","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-anglo-saxon-england","tag-celts","tag-poetry","tag-polytheism","tag-psychology","tag-war"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p6xQTg-3Dk","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1043,"url":"https:\/\/blog.chasclifton.com\/?p=1043","url_meta":{"origin":13970,"position":0},"title":"Knee Deep in the Bloody Ford of History","author":"Chas S. 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